Debate: Mga taxpayers (income tax) lang ang dapat bigyan ng karapatang bumoto. Dapat ba o hindi? Bakit?
NOTE: Gawing logical, wala kaming pake sa nararamdaman nyo
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Dahil kung hindi ako nagbabayad ng tax, hindi ako manghihinayang pag nakita kong nilulustay na ang kaban ng bayan. Hindi naman ako nag contribute dun eh, tama? Kaya dapat taxpayers lang ang bumoto, tama?
The "TAXPAYERS ONLY" stance assumes two fallacies:
1. That because I have a job and pay taxes, then I automatically know that I'll be voting for the right people.
2. I am immune from being bribed to vote for the wrong people.
Sinong makakapag guarantee ng mga yan? Kung running for president ako at biglang i-announce na taxpayers lang ang boboto, then I'll begin bribing taxpayers, SIMPLE. Isipin mo, 52 million ang registered voters sa pinas, pero 18.9 million lang ang taxpayers. 32 million nawala sa mga susuhulan mo! Kahit doblehin mo bribe sa natirang 20 million, may sukli ka pa.
A taxpayer's vote is not immune to bribery. It's just more expensive, because you're bribing someone who's probably a little less dumber than the rest of the population.
Pero sige, tanggalin natin ang bribe factor. Just for the sake of argument eh assume nating hindi talaga naba-bribe kapag taxpayer ka. Do you think just because I'm a taxpayer I'd spend my energy researching who I'd vote for, instead of say, maintaining my base in Clash of Clans? Bakit? Just because I'm a taxpayer doesn't mean biglang may tyaga akong magresearch about public figures and their political history. Nasa TV at dyaryo naman ang information ng mga tatakbo, eh di dun ako magba-base ng boto ko. After all, hindi naman magsisinungaling ang mga TV at dyaryo, di ba? Di ba?
Anu nga ulet na-eliminate ng pagiging TAXPAYER ng botante mo?
WALA.
TL;DR, I say NO. If you don't want assholes to be voted the next President, maybe make it illegal for ASSHOLES to run for presidency? May record ng graft and corruption, walang ginawa nung congressman kundi matulog, questionable ang Assets and Liabilities, hahayaan mo pang tumakbo sa pagka-presidente?
Yung mga kandidato ang tanggalan nyo ng karapatang tumakbo, hindi yung tatanggalan nyo ako ng karapatang bumoto dahil lang nawalan ako ng trabaho nung nagsara yung account namin sa Convergys 6 months ago.
The "TAXPAYERS ONLY" stance assumes two fallacies:
1. That because I have a job and pay taxes, then I automatically know that I'll be voting for the right people.
2. I am immune from being bribed to vote for the wrong people.
Sinong makakapag guarantee ng mga yan? Kung running for president ako at biglang i-announce na taxpayers lang ang boboto, then I'll begin bribing taxpayers, SIMPLE. Isipin mo, 52 million ang registered voters sa pinas, pero 18.9 million lang ang taxpayers. 32 million nawala sa mga susuhulan mo! Kahit doblehin mo bribe sa natirang 20 million, may sukli ka pa.
A taxpayer's vote is not immune to bribery. It's just more expensive, because you're bribing someone who's probably a little less dumber than the rest of the population.
Pero sige, tanggalin natin ang bribe factor. Just for the sake of argument eh assume nating hindi talaga naba-bribe kapag taxpayer ka. Do you think just because I'm a taxpayer I'd spend my energy researching who I'd vote for, instead of say, maintaining my base in Clash of Clans? Bakit? Just because I'm a taxpayer doesn't mean biglang may tyaga akong magresearch about public figures and their political history. Nasa TV at dyaryo naman ang information ng mga tatakbo, eh di dun ako magba-base ng boto ko. After all, hindi naman magsisinungaling ang mga TV at dyaryo, di ba? Di ba?
Anu nga ulet na-eliminate ng pagiging TAXPAYER ng botante mo?
WALA.
TL;DR, I say NO. If you don't want assholes to be voted the next President, maybe make it illegal for ASSHOLES to run for presidency? May record ng graft and corruption, walang ginawa nung congressman kundi matulog, questionable ang Assets and Liabilities, hahayaan mo pang tumakbo sa pagka-presidente?
Yung mga kandidato ang tanggalan nyo ng karapatang tumakbo, hindi yung tatanggalan nyo ako ng karapatang bumoto dahil lang nawalan ako ng trabaho nung nagsara yung account namin sa Convergys 6 months ago.
There are 2 types of paying taxes.
1. Directly
2. Indirectly
Directly: These are the people who pay their taxes via working. (income tax)
Indirectly: These are the people who pays taxes indirectly via the E-VAT when purchasing prodcuts, goods, etc.
Kapag nagtatrabaho ka, pareho mong nagagampanan ang 1 & 2. Whereas kapag wala ka namang trabaho at pabigat ka sa lipunan e yung 2 lang ang kaya mong gawin. Not enough. Outnumbered din ng mga bobotanteng non tax payers ang mga tax payers during the times of election. Mostly pa ng mga non-tax payers ay mahihirap na pamilya. Gipit ang mga ito kaya madali silang pikutin ng mga buwayang pulitiko gamit ang salapi.
We're in democratic country. As if I didn't know that? But look at what too much democracy did to us? Our democracy turned into a democrazy already. So, it's a yes for me.
